||[Feb. 7th, 2009|08:10 pm]
An article on how a cover for an epic fantasy with a female main character was created was fascinating. I read a whole crapload of epic fantasy (and avoided urban fantasy) when I was younger, and that cover doesn't speak epic fantasy to me. It's NOT the female on the cover, it's the style. It makes me think of urban fantasy much more than epic. And I've never heard of the idea that urban fantasy is read by girls and epic fantasy is read by boys. Via coffeeandink, there are some interesting comments at her post.
I don't know about urban VS epic because I am still in the Children's Books stage but...
"Best Served Cold is the story of Monza Murcatto, the Snake of Talins, the most feared and famous mercenary in the ruthless Duke Orso’s employ. Her victories have made her popular — a shade too popular for her employer’s taste. Betrayed, thrown down a mountain, and left for dead, Murcatto arises with a broken body and a burning hunger for vengeance."
...I saw this happen in KILL BILL, you know. O__o
*laughs* It does sound a bit like Kill Bill, doesn't it? I wonder if it's half as good as Kill Bill...
I would hesitate to lumber Joe Abercrombie as an EPIC fantasy writter. Although his novels have the epic in them he deviates quite dramatically. The term used to describe his line of fantasy is apparently "REAL fantasy" which I find a bit... laughable XD. He writes gritty, nasty and often ugly situations, his characters are BEYOND flawed and come as unlikable as you can get ... I LOVE his stuff. Grand in scale but isn't really uplifting as you can expect from the word EPIC.
I get a lot of angry accusations from people who pick "real fantasy" because I explode ecstatically about them in my journal (Abercrombie, Scott Lynch, Richard Morgan) up to the point when people want ME to refund them and demand the author stop writting ... so I would approach with care and sample before you buy - It makes Urban fantasy seem fluffy, it uses modern slang like the word "fuck" a lot and it stick its finger at you when you say you hate it ^^;;.
I'd never heard of this author, and from your description it sounds like I should avoid him. I've read somewhat similar stuff and while they can be gripping I'm usually very unhappy at the end.
I don't believe I've ever heard the term 'urban fantasy', but then, I've been out of touch with novel trends for quite some time, so I might've just forgotten. I gather it's a more modern style fantasy book?
The descriptions of the book don't really interest me that much, although I'm fond of the idea of the female hero. I'm more into the "fluffy" epic fantasy - it has always been my passion. I'd love to see more good epic fantasy stories with female protagonists. Patricia C. Wrede did it, but her books are for children and not generally taken seriously. And then there's the Golden Compass trilogy... but Lyra is a child, and that changes things somewhat. I've noticed that books with main female characters tend to fall into stereotypical traps related to gender roles.
Goddamnit... I guess if I want what I'm really after, I'll need to try and write it myself, won't I? >_>
See the above comment. I'll be avoiding it.
I adore children's lit and ignore other people looking down on it. Some of the most emotionally moving books I've ever read have been children's books because they strip down all the extraneous stuff that makes adult books fatter and strike right at the heart. At least, the best ones do. XD;
Sadly, I tend to avoid books with female protagonists. I've been burned too much when I was younger. I'm sure there are awesome books out there, I just don't want to wade through the crap to find them. ^^;
Yeah - it takes a certain and very particular taste to digest AND enjoy these novels. I wouldn't try and pretend I am somehow unique in my love of this sub-sub-genre because it is quite successful right now (to my delight) but I constantly try and WARN people who I suspect wouldn't take it well, to avoid it.
It is funny when they ignore warnings then go off on a tangent demanding the author should immediately stop writing because no one in the world could possibly LIKE that type of writing... obviously - lots of people do, myself included.
I think you are safer to stay clear - when I say it goes nasty - I don't mean it goes DARK ... I mean Nasty with a capital N XD.
EDIT: And sorry - I posted it to the wrong comment. It was a reply to the reply to MY comment *head spins* @_@
Edited at 2009-02-10 11:32 am (UTC)
People who complain when something isn't to their liking instead of looking for something that is need to be kicked. Like all assholes they tend to be way too vocal and insistent.
I always read epic fantasy when I was a kid too. XD! Then I read manga and urban fantasy.
I just read BL novels and manga when I read fiction nowadays. Oh, how my tastes have fallen...
Lol. Yes. I think i cared more about image when I was a teenager. XD!